Hmmm. This is a good one. What's the difference? If you're looking for observable differences, we know that "you will know them by their fruit." There's also that "my sheep hear my voice" thing.
Something tells me that observable differences are not what you're after.
Is conversion an intellectual agreement with a set of propositional statements (you are a sinner, Jesus died for you, etc.). And once you accept (believe) these statements, you are "in." Faith follows reason in this model.
If it's the intellectual agreement thing, then it's all about believing the right thing.
The question really makes me wonder if "IN" (believers) and "OUT" (unbelievers) is the right way to describe things.
Here's what I mean. Birth begins with conception. Fruit doesn't grow until a seed dies and is buried in the ground. Jesus used both of these examples when talking about belief. Is conversion kinda organic like that? A tiny seed of faith is sown, and from it grows up a tree of sound reason.
Seems like we need some kind of agreement on what conversion is before we can begin to answer your question.
Is this all too weird? I'll back off of this one if you want. "Salvation" is the holy grail, I know.
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Hmmm. This is a good one. What's the difference? If you're looking for observable differences, we know that "you will know them by their fruit." There's also that "my sheep hear my voice" thing.
Something tells me that observable differences are not what you're after.
Is conversion an intellectual agreement with a set of propositional statements (you are a sinner, Jesus died for you, etc.). And once you accept (believe) these statements, you are "in." Faith follows reason in this model.
If it's the intellectual agreement thing, then it's all about believing the right thing.
The question really makes me wonder if "IN" (believers) and "OUT" (unbelievers) is the right way to describe things.
Here's what I mean. Birth begins with conception. Fruit doesn't grow until a seed dies and is buried in the ground. Jesus used both of these examples when talking about belief. Is conversion kinda organic like that? A tiny seed of faith is sown, and from it grows up a tree of sound reason.
Seems like we need some kind of agreement on what conversion is before we can begin to answer your question.
Is this all too weird? I'll back off of this one if you want. "Salvation" is the holy grail, I know.
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